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Post by m1guy on Jan 8, 2011 20:52:15 GMT -5
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Post by 1marinediv on Jan 9, 2011 9:51:27 GMT -5
Nice pics!!
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cco23i
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Post by cco23i on Jan 9, 2011 10:29:38 GMT -5
Makes me cold looking at it! That's why I moved out of Indiana! Scott
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Post by m1guy on Jan 9, 2011 12:51:17 GMT -5
haha i'm from ga so snow is rare.. snow pics in ga are had to get.. but these were taken on christmas day.. i believe it was the first white chirstmas since the 70's .. but we got a snow storm coming tonight.
will
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Post by S/Sgt.Noble30thID on Jan 9, 2011 14:07:21 GMT -5
Posts deleted and back on topic.
Charlie
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Post by m1guy on Jan 9, 2011 15:42:03 GMT -5
apologises.
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Post by williegford on Jan 10, 2011 12:13:22 GMT -5
I have one question. You're wearing 36 suspenders and have an M1911. Are you portraying an officer, enlisted man? If not an officer you'd be better off, in my opinion, losing the M1911 and replacing the suspenders with a '28 pack or go without all together. Also, either use the helmet net or the band. The net you are using does not go with that band (not saying it would be impossible to see that combination but it is not typical). You also may want to consider in the future replacing the service shoes and leggings with a pair of combat boots if you are doing a late war/winter '44-'45 2nd ID impression. Finally, get lockbar sights for your M1. Still, you're well on your way. Good job. Bill
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Post by 34thtcflyboy on Jan 10, 2011 12:33:08 GMT -5
The leggings too are screaming at me. Get some overshoes and the impression will look great.
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Post by cco23i on Jan 10, 2011 13:23:08 GMT -5
Also I would move your canteen back to the last set of eyelets.
Scott
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Post by S/Sgt.Noble30thID on Jan 10, 2011 14:58:56 GMT -5
Leggins are seen but not in HUGE quantities. You're fine with them, but I think combat boots would serve you better. Overshoes or shoepacs would look real cool too, but there isn't really enough snow/mud/water for them.
Your canteen is fine too. Keeps you from sitting on it or against it there.
Charlie
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Post by TC1c Dunigan on Jan 10, 2011 18:02:50 GMT -5
Alright, a Winter 1944 impression... 1.) Lose the elastic band from around the net.(Granted, probably it was done but, its more common to see them without an elastic band. Especially, the 1" net style.) 2.) I'd also change the chinstraps on your helmet to a khaki set. 3.) Scarf, wrap it around the back of your neck and cross it over, then tuck it down into your jacket, you'll stay warmer. 4.) I agree with willie. Lose the suspenders and get yourself a 28' pack.(Or as an option, fill your M-6 Gasmask bag with your personal items in light of no 28' pack.) 5.) Adjust your web gear to properly fit, so it sits properly upon your body build. 6.) Canteen, move it back a little so your arm is hitting it all the time. Things like that will get annoying eventually. 7.) First Aid Pouch, switch it over to the right front side of your belt. 8.) Place your bayonet where your First Aid Pouch was. 9.) Lose the leggings. Get some Combat Boots, and dub your boots with mink oil. 10.) As for lock-bars, I disagree with willie. Don't change em'. If you shoot your M-1 the later style is much better and a less pain to use. Not to mention those sites are a part of that rifles history, leave em. Most importantly, prior to lock-bars the M-1 had a similar looking set of ear sight knobs. So, they're still good aesthetically. Just my $0.02 Regards, FRISCAN
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Post by irgendwo on Jan 10, 2011 19:36:05 GMT -5
1.) Agreed. Unless you have the net the elastic band came with, ditch it. 2.) OD #7 chinstraps could be seen in this era, especially LATE '44. As long as it's a front seam helmet. 3.) Scarf is a cool thing. I don't wear one though. 4.) Ditch the suspenders. Replace with a '28 pack for "marching" and the like. Good article on various '28 pack wear styles here: www.90thidpg.us/Equipment/Articles/28Pack/index.html5.) Agreed. Tighten that belt! 6.) Disagree. GI's didn't always wear their gear per regulation. Perhaps he finds it most comfortable where it is? 7.) Same as above. 8.) Same as above. 9.) I like combat boots. But I know nothing about the 2nd and what they would be wearing at this time. I cannot make a call on that. It is your job as a 2nd ID reenactor to make that call- to check out photos of 2nd ID guys at the time of your portrayal and the like. 10.) History of the rifle? The Russian shellac on my K98 was part of it's history too, and it was farby- so I removed it. By 1944 you wouldn't be seeing either that super early "flush nut" type sight, or the T-10-whatever sights that were added postwar. They repro the lockbars and after being reparked they look fine. Alright, a Winter 1944 impression... 1.) Lose the elastic band from around the net.(Granted, probably it was done but, its more common to see them without an elastic band. Especially, the 1" net style.) 2.) I'd also change the chinstraps on your helmet to a khaki set. 3.) Scarf, wrap it around the back of your neck and cross it over, then tuck it down into your jacket, you'll stay warmer. 4.) I agree with willie. Lose the suspenders and get yourself a 28' pack.(Or as an option, fill your M-6 Gasmask bag with your personal items in light of no 28' pack.) 5.) Adjust your web gear to properly fit, so it sits properly upon your body build. 6.) Canteen, move it back a little so your arm is hitting it all the time. Things like that will get annoying eventually. 7.) First Aid Pouch, switch it over to the right front side of your belt. 8.) Place your bayonet where your First Aid Pouch was. 9.) Lose the leggings. Get some Combat Boots, and dub your boots with mink oil. 10.) As for lock-bars, I disagree with willie. Don't change em'. If you shoot your M-1 the later style is much better and a less pain to use. Not to mention those sites are a part of that rifles history, leave em. Most importantly, prior to lock-bars the M-1 had a similar looking set of ear sight knobs. So, they're still good aesthetically. Just my $0.02 Regards, FRISCAN
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Post by GyreneGreen on Jan 10, 2011 19:41:33 GMT -5
Alright, a Winter 1944 impression... 10.) As for lock-bars, I disagree with willie. Don't change em'. If you shoot your M-1 the later style is much better and a less pain to use. Not to mention those sites are a part of that rifles history, leave em. Most importantly, prior to lock-bars the M-1 had a similar looking set of ear sight knobs. So, they're still good aesthetically. Just my $0.02 Regards, FRISCAN T105 sights are not flush nuts, they might look convincing to someone who has never seen flush nut or lockbar sights at 10 feet, but is that really the standard you are going to use? Reproduction lockbars, though they have very small cosmetic flaws, are cheaper now than they have ever been. Also, at his age he should spend the money on getting his weapon correct (something he won't outgrow, and is not going to change depending on what unit he joins) than another pair of boots or a jacket. Changing out the rear sights is easily done, unless you stake your lockbars in place. As for the post-war parts being a part of the guns history, that's great if you want to reenact Korea/Vietnam/1970s ROTC. If you want to reenact WWII however, you need to switch them out for flush nuts (reproductions were made in the 90s I believe but are very expensive now) or type II lockbars. If we were worried about parts being part of a gun's history, then it would be ok for all manner of anachronistic parts. If anyone is concerned about their guns history they can save the parts when they swap them for their WWII equivalents.
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Post by m1guy on Jan 10, 2011 19:51:45 GMT -5
actually.. the person i portray.. since i'm friends with his son.. he was in the 9th inf 2nd div i co.. for some reason he was issued jump boots. I have jump boots.. but i wasnt sure if the whole jump boot thing would go over well on the forum.
wil
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Post by usmc1944 on Jan 10, 2011 20:37:45 GMT -5
actually.. the person i portray.. since i'm friends with his son.. he was in the 9th inf 2nd div i co.. for some reason he was issued jump boots. I have jump boots.. but i wasnt sure if the whole jump boot thing would go over well on the forum. wil Jump boots always seem to be an iffy subject among the reenacting community in my honest opinion. I have come across alot of photos recently of regular leg infantry wearing jump boots. But alot of what I have seen has been when they are in the rear, it seemed to be one of those items that was a popular leisure piece to the uniform. Did your friends grandfather say whether he wore them in combat or in the rear, or if at all? I know many things are issued to the common soldier (even today) that he puts away and never uses.
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Post by m1guy on Jan 10, 2011 20:55:43 GMT -5
i agree with what your saying.. but he has a bunch of photos of him wearing them.. maybe i can ask next time i see him and scan some on here.. but he saw combat with them.. ya i think some reference photos of him would help.
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Post by 2ndidmedic on Jan 10, 2011 20:59:19 GMT -5
Alright, a Winter 1944 impression... 1.) Lose the elastic band from around the net.(Granted, probably it was done but, its more common to see them without an elastic band. Especially, the 1" net style.) 2.) I'd also change the chinstraps on your helmet to a khaki set. 3.) Scarf, wrap it around the back of your neck and cross it over, then tuck it down into your jacket, you'll stay warmer. 4.) I agree with willie. Lose the suspenders and get yourself a 28' pack.(Or as an option, fill your M-6 Gasmask bag with your personal items in light of no 28' pack.) 5.) Adjust your web gear to properly fit, so it sits properly upon your body build. 6.) Canteen, move it back a little so your arm is hitting it all the time. Things like that will get annoying eventually. 7.) First Aid Pouch, switch it over to the right front side of your belt. 8.) Place your bayonet where your First Aid Pouch was. 9.) Lose the leggings. Get some Combat Boots, and dub your boots with mink oil. 10.) As for lock-bars, I disagree with willie. Don't change em'. If you shoot your M-1 the later style is much better and a less pain to use. Not to mention those sites are a part of that rifles history, leave em. Most importantly, prior to lock-bars the M-1 had a similar looking set of ear sight knobs. So, they're still good aesthetically. Just my $0.02 Regards, FRISCAN That
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Post by TC1c Dunigan on Jan 10, 2011 21:43:36 GMT -5
10.) History of the rifle? The Russian shellac on my K98 was part of it's history too, and it was farby- so I removed it. By 1944 you wouldn't be seeing either that super early "flush nut" type sight, or the T-10-whatever sights that were added postwar. They repro the lockbars and after being reparked they look fine. I'd of left the shellac. The rifle was a Russian capture. If someone is that anal over shellac on a original piece of WWII military history, Especially a Russian weapon you know will get shellaced(they shellac everything practically)then grow up! M1guy, lock-bars are not a must. Besides they are a pain in the butt to utilize unscrew this-adjust that-screw this back and then fire... ugh, ridiculous. Not to mention if your going to use repro's then your not going to be authentic anyways because they aren't originals anyhow. If your going to go hardcore then you have to do everything perfectly to the t, therefore with reproductions not being 100% that ain't gonna happen. So, shellac, no shellac, lock-bar or not, nothing is going to be 100% correct WWII. So, grow up and realize this is a hobby, it is a love, it is an learning experience not a place to be ridiculously anal. Now I am anal don't get me wrong but, I leave it at my rifle because I use it for more then just reenacting. When a particular item has such a unique history like the combat rifle you don't mess with it because it will devalue it. Just my $0.02 FRISCAN T105 sights are not flush nuts, they might look convincing to someone who has never seen flush nut or lockbar sights at 10 feet, but is that really the standard you are going to use? PS - Gyrene, so does this mean your going to bring a magnifying glass to make sure he's got flush nut rear sights now?
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Post by williegford on Jan 10, 2011 22:23:31 GMT -5
M1guy, lock-bars are not a must. Besides they are a pain in the butt to utilize unscrew this-adjust that-screw this back and then fire... ugh, ridiculous. I beg to differ. Lock bars are a must for a WWII M1 unless you are doing very early war in which case you would need flush nut sights. T105 sights look nothing like the early flush nut sights, especially the elevation cap. And if lock bar sights are a pain in the butt for you to utilize then you simply don't know how to properly use them. If you did, you'd find that they are just as easy to use at the range as the T105 sights are. Bottom line, T105 sights = wrong. No ifs, ands or buts. PS - Gyrene, so does this mean your going to bring a magnifying glass to make sure he's got flush nut rear sights now? Friscan, You won't need a magnifying glass to pick out T105 sights. They stand out like a sore thumb to anyone who knows what they are. Don't ever accept "good enough". That doesn't mean you have to do everything right away but you should always strive to improve your impressions authenticity. Bill
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Post by GyreneGreen on Jan 10, 2011 22:34:39 GMT -5
Correction: Lock bars are a must- unless you are portraying the 1 guy out of 1,000 in 1944 using flush nut sights (somehow that rifle had eluded the retrofitting of the newer lock bar sights for four years).
By the way, replacing the rear sight takes less than 10 minutes with the standard combination tool and directions. Even less if you have done it more than once.
Originals are out there. I bought mine years ago but they are still around, and even the worst reproductions are more authentic than POST-WAR T105 sights.
"Preserving the history of the rifle" is a real nice euphemism for, "I am lazy/cheap/ or just don't care about getting it right". It is the equivalent of "if they had it they would have used it" for other items.
Let's not forget that sometimes what we do is called "preserving the memory of those who served in WWII" and in my opinion I would prefer to prioritize that rather than making sure my post-war rebuilt Garand looks 1948 correct.
M1guy,
If you want to know where to buy lockbar sights, and how to install them send me a PM.
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