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Post by glen on Jun 27, 2009 19:09:32 GMT -5
How does does any one become an officer in ww2 reenacting Iwas wondering about this today as I was working?What do you have to do if you want to become a 90 day wonder(officer)?-Doc Jones  |
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Post by Elijah2 on Jun 27, 2009 19:23:00 GMT -5
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glen
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Post by glen on Jun 27, 2009 22:42:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the enfo-Doc Jones |
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cco23i
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Post by cco23i on Jun 27, 2009 22:55:03 GMT -5
David, You forgot to tell him about the LABOTOMY!  Scott |
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Post by Irishcowboy(Les Rochester) on Jul 3, 2009 23:10:12 GMT -5
Why would you want to be one?Thats the real?
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cco23i
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Post by cco23i on Jul 3, 2009 23:17:32 GMT -5
Too much crap you have to deal with if you portray an officer correctly!
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Post by wildazchef on Jul 4, 2009 4:31:15 GMT -5
Too much crap you have to deal with if you portray an officer correctly! Scott No kidding Scotty !! close to 40 years of reenacting and the closest I have ever gotten to becoming an occifer is Sergeant Major for a 1890s cavalry group that I helped start. They wanted to make me a leutenant and I said no way Jose, I like taken orders not given them. LOL |
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Post by glen on Jul 4, 2009 13:19:39 GMT -5
No I just wanted to know what you had to do to become a 90 day wounder(officer),I stick with being an enlisted man.-Doc Jones |
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Post by littlepopper on Jul 4, 2009 16:10:08 GMT -5
Why would you want to be one?Thats the real? Some people want the responsibility. I know I do but I have to work my way up to a CO. Some people just want to serve but there are others who wish to be the CO. Someone has to....its just like someone has to be the indian to play cowboys and indians. Its just not the same without a CO because then it loses the order that is had during ww2. |
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Post by Dustin C. Day 'A' Co. 5th Rngr on Jul 4, 2009 16:22:25 GMT -5
Just my .02-I'm not sure that officers are really that necessary in the hobby. I would respect a sergeant with a squad sized unit more than an officer with 5 or 6 enlisted men. Within this hobby being in command shouldn't have to mean being an officer....
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Post by littlepopper on Jul 4, 2009 17:57:25 GMT -5
Just my .02-I'm not sure that officers are really that necessary in the hobby. I would respect a sergeant with a squad sized unit more than an officer with 5 or 6 enlisted men. Within this hobby being in command shouldn't have to mean being an officer.... I agree that some officeras are JAFO's but most of us I believe do this too keep the history. So to keep it there has to be officers because they were there. Yes I would trust my life with my sgt. and Id trust him with my men, but not with most officers that I have met. To some its power, but to others its like the father of a group of kids. Someone has to look out for them and make sure that they are gonna get through. But this is my view of an officer that counts and not someone who barks off orders to grab his crap (my CO does this for CW and he's not a great officer as I have to save his butt every single time he screws up). I guess thats why Im always with him but still, there are people who want to do this right and not care about the power it holds. |
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Post by Irishcowboy(Les Rochester) on Jul 4, 2009 18:57:21 GMT -5
You always do need a few officers,for realism.BUT realy i would'nt want the job.Plus a good officer can make an awsome group,but if they are a prick watch out.Plus they could just not know what there doing either. ON the 90 day wonder officer thing, its like life.Sometimes you work for it,most of the time its who you know.Myself id rather be a lower rank nco(at most)
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Post by littlepopper on Jul 4, 2009 21:29:17 GMT -5
You always do need a few officers,for realism.BUT realy i would'nt want the job.Plus a good officer can make an awsome group,but if they are a prick watch out.Plus they could just not know what there doing either. ON the 90 day wonder officer thing, its like life.Sometimes you work for it,most of the time its who you know.Myself id rather be a lower rank nco(at most) Ok see someone agree's, Yes some CO's can be pricks but look back then and prove to me that there wasnt any CO's that were pricks. I can garuntee you there was, and there was many during the Civil war. Its a thing called having more power makes you a stronger person. Thats why people dont want it because they are given power over a group of people. I see it as even though I have the rank, I was still a private once. I know what its like and I know its hard but you have to steer them in the right way so they will understand how what they were doing was wrong. |
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Post by 34thtcflyboy on Jul 4, 2009 21:48:28 GMT -5
I personally like to do a 90-day wonder impression. Because of my age I always get asked "You're 24? Why ain't you made Major yet?" It's a fun crack at the young officer's in the AAF, but I guess that is a different animal than what you guys are referring to. As far as infantry officer's go, I don't think that I've met many that didn't just have a huge ego and power trip.
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Post by Danger Forward on Jul 4, 2009 23:49:30 GMT -5
Air Corps and Infantry are two completely different animals. Air Corps went dumb when they made the rule that only officers could fly in 1942. Lots of damn fine enlisted men had to trade in their respectability for officers rank. So being an Air Corps re-enactor pretty much means you have to have more officers then enlisted it seems, even though the crew on a B-17 was split 50/50 officers and enlisted. Don't get me started on ground crews, Scott and Bill would get their panties all twisted if you paraded around with Lt bars...  As far as infanty goes. If your group is less then 20 men, don't even think about having an officer. 20 men would be a platoon in WWII and those were led by a Lt at best. Many were lead by Sgts. Once you get past the 20 threshold, you can squeak by with a butter bar (IMHO). Once you get past 30 men, add another butter bar and promote your first butter bar to Capt. Make the new second louie your S-2 so he can gather intellegence, tell the Sgt's what they need to teach the men and who to send on patrols. If your group gets big enough (40 or more men), get yourself a major to run the group, a Capt as "Company" Commander and no more then 2 Lt's (One XO, one S-2). I have seen groups of 10 men with three officers, a major, a capt and an Lt, 4 sgts, a corporal and 2 privates. Thats just silly... |
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Post by 35divmp on Jul 5, 2009 0:02:41 GMT -5
I have seen groups of 10 men with three officers, a major, a capt and an Lt, 4 sgts, a corporal and 2 privates. Thats just silly... Not always... If you're doing a pre-D-Day 101st or 82nd Airborne scattered drop impression where the officer-to-NCO-to-EM ratio is screwed up or a more specialized impression such as medical (field hospital), MP, engineer, ordiance or even a Forward Observer impression, then the officer numbers may be off. But straight-leg in the field numbers, then you're pretty much correct. Jay |
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Post by glen on Jul 10, 2009 15:41:00 GMT -5
Nope I'll just stay being an listed man-Doc Jones |
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Post by Irishcowboy(Les Rochester) on Jul 10, 2009 18:27:27 GMT -5
I am with you!
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cco23i
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Post by cco23i on Jul 10, 2009 18:41:14 GMT -5
Besides, the lower the rank THE LESS RESPONSIBILITIES!! Man, somebody take my stripes away, PLEASE!! Scott |
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Post by glen on Jul 10, 2009 19:04:16 GMT -5
Yep they are the first one's too get (to buy the farm)-killed,that Lt bar makes a good target.-Doc Jones |
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