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Post by Sheikh Al Stranghi on Apr 28, 2008 16:00:52 GMT -5
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Post by Old Salt on May 7, 2008 20:27:30 GMT -5
Very nice! Glad to see a German kit in good detail posted.
Jonathan
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Post by galloway on May 15, 2008 19:55:15 GMT -5
Your impression looks awesome. You should keep that tunic buttoned up almost all the time though unless you are getting ready to take it off or like in that one pic you are taken prisoner; Germans wore them buttoned up most of the time and if you want it unbuttoned just take it off. Most of the pictures I see of soldiers they have them buttoned up or off not really anywhere in between.
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Post by mitch on May 15, 2008 23:24:36 GMT -5
Its perfectly ok and was with in regs to have your top button unbuttoned during combat.
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Post by Boogiewoogie on May 15, 2008 23:26:51 GMT -5
Unbuttoned collars....It was a big problem, for guys coming off the front lines, during leave. They would forget about it because they were not used to it. Some rear echelon person would have a fit about it.
Yeah, get rid of that pouch, it ruins your impression.
Martin
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Post by FJR6 on May 15, 2008 23:40:16 GMT -5
Nice pics, but get rid off the fighting knife as well.
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Post by Buck on May 16, 2008 0:00:25 GMT -5
I like the pinch in the M43 cap. You don't see many of them.  -Buck |
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Post by Rossi on May 18, 2008 17:42:19 GMT -5
The French Bamboo is also very under-represented.
Looks nice
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Post by TAFF on May 19, 2008 19:41:28 GMT -5
Nice pics, but get rid off the fighting knife as well. Because you may not like Paratroopers but Paratroopers would damn well not like you if they found those items on you. There's an interesting pic. in the De Trez book on Forrest Guth of a very dead Fallschirmjager in Normandy. He has an M8 scabbard on his belt, so I would assume he'd picked it up from a Paratrooper or similar and was using it, if you look closely you can see the M3 fighting knife however is sticking out of the side of his neck! Besides that the whole ethos of the German army was far stricter on enforcing uniformity and regulation in the field and that really is part of the portrayel as much as what you actually carry. That's one thing that lets many German reenactors down, and is an issue that has been riased by real Germans, both veterans and civilians I've spoken to, many German reenactors look too casual and individualistic, their dress and behaviour is often too relaxed for the high level of discipline that was rammed into them during their training and maintained by their NCO's and Officers in the field. One very nice German lady also once told me 'You don't smile like a German', I'm still trying to work that one out 12 years later!  |
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Post by scratch monkey on May 27, 2008 9:51:45 GMT -5
Original photographs on the way.... So where are they? |
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Post by mitch on May 27, 2008 11:51:50 GMT -5
Uniformity in the Germany Army in 1944?? Maybe early war but, not in 1944. Especially with the rag tag Luftwaffe ground divisions and what was left the FJs that were pulled from every other part of the Luftwaffe that had VERY limited ground combat training. Yes basic training for the average Landser was 12 months (and that does not counting Hitler Youth and RAD) but not in 1943 until the end of the war. Germans picked up all kinds of “captured” weapons and is photographic fact. The FJs loved the M1 carbine. I understand the point of somewhat uniformity in reenacting because not every unit or person had captured weapons or equipment but it happened more then the reenactorism ideas wants us to believe.
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Post by TAFF on Jun 3, 2008 17:48:50 GMT -5
With all due respect I disagree, this lad is portraying a basic field grey grenadier, not a Fallschi., LW ground troops, Waffen SS or anything else where professional figting ability meant things were'overlooked', pull out pics. or the average German Infantry or Grenadier unit in 1944 and even 1945 and what you will see is a group of men, or more often boys looking 90% like each other, straight down the line, 'standard' clothing and equipment, some may be re-issue or even outdated patterns but they will largely look like each other, even down to how and where they carry their equipment. Yes, towards the end of the war and when your dealing with some hastily arranged Kampfgruppe you get a weird and wonderful collections of kit but look at most 'ordinary' German soldiers for almost the entire length of the war and you will see a lot more uniformity than the average reenactment group usually manages.
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Post by mitch on Jun 16, 2008 11:08:45 GMT -5
A- Give names of books and refer to specific pages.
B- Show historical photos.
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Post by K. Schulte on Jun 18, 2008 9:39:42 GMT -5
A- Give names of books and refer to specific pages. B- Show historical photos. I am not trying to be a grump in any way, but I agree this should be in a different thread. You have not posted any original photographs of what is being portrayed and it is also lacking any reference information to show that your impression is correct. I have been working on research and finding photographs for months now so I could properly add my 5th Ranger and GD impressions to this thread. Stick to the guidelines. Just my .02. BTW your kit looks great |
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Post by Old Salt on Jun 19, 2008 19:06:09 GMT -5
As this failed to meet the specified requirements of posting in the Detailed Impression section, I moved it back to the regular section for all to enjoy.
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Post by m1steelpot on Jun 26, 2008 2:06:14 GMT -5
I gotta say this-
Ditch those postwar Gamaschen! Decent Repros can be had for a little more than the postwars, and they'll be correct too!
Also- why do you have the loops for awards on your pocket, but no awards? Cut those off.
It's little things like this that can make or break an impression.
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Post by mitch on Jun 26, 2008 12:58:59 GMT -5
Lose the rubber band around the helmet cover also. Poor some warm water over the helmet cover when it’s on the helmet and it will conform to the helmet better after it drys. Also stop being a defeatist!
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Post by First Special Service Force on Jul 23, 2008 12:20:56 GMT -5
looks really good
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Post by TomClegg on Jul 23, 2008 15:18:01 GMT -5
Gentlemen, When doing interpretive presentations and classroom programs as well as a recent History Channel shoot I too will dirty up exposed skin etc. It adds immeasurably to the realism. However, if you are going to go to the effort it helps to do so in a more convincing manner. I'm not talking about camo face paint etc. rather the look of prolonged combat etc. Using a mix of fuller's earth, powdered charcoal and baby powder apply with large make up brush to dirty the neck the most, secondly the ears and hands (esp the wrists) last the back of the hands and face with most at hat crease, sides of nose and below chin. These are the areas that get grimiest. Think about where sweat collects and would turn dust, soot, powder to stain. Last lightly powder face with above mix, lightly spray with water, wait 30 seconds and wipe with hands. This will leave dirt in the creases esp around the eyes. Next wipe hands on trousers or sleeve as you would naturally. It looks incredibly unnatural to have dirtied flesh and a clean uniform so pay attention to the areas that get the sweatiest as well as collars, cuffs and non buttoning pocket edges. Lightly wet these areas and liberally apply fuller's earth, rub it in a bit and then shake it off, finish with baby powder at the edges to simulate sweat stains. This having been said NOTHING is more convincing than actual wear, sweat, filth, wood smoke, dirt, grit, spilled coffee, rations and grease. So please hold the make-up jokes. Also, the best (IMHO) way to make a uniform look like it's been worn by you for days/weeks is to wear it swimming (I'm not kidding), good long thorough soaking, low crawling while still wet and then worn in the sun till dry. Here's what it looks like after three days in the field: img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/courage505/D5.jpgSee you in the assembly area! Tom |
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Post by First Special Service Force on Jul 23, 2008 15:52:08 GMT -5
wow thanks for sharing i just learned a lot and i like the picture it does look like that uniform has been worn for days and or weeks
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I think I'll lose the first aid packet though, that's a bit over the top.
