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Post by Carper on Apr 13, 2011 18:49:55 GMT -5
Totaly agree with you when you say you dont do the whole "beat up the gear thing". The gear and uniforms look great after a few events with just normal wear. No point in aging the stuff artificialy. Expecially with Marine uniforms and gear, they were getting new stuff due to the rapid decay caused by the jungle/coral. Sure after a week of combat thier stuff did look pretty bad.
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Post by sturmsoldat on Apr 14, 2011 9:32:54 GMT -5
Man.... repro webgear looks so obviuous. If you so decide to go the repop route, beat it up a little. If you are talking about the 1910 F/A pouch and USMC carbine pouch, and shovel cover from WW2 impressions. I just got them, so, I have not had a chance to use them. I don't do the whole "beat up the gear thing". It will get a good used look after a few events. And what if it is a D-day event? I have seen guys wear the repro gear for a while, and it still just looks far too new. You have to take into account that soldiers in WWII used their gear on a daily basis. It was exposed to the sun, rain, and snow... It was handled constantly. Hand grease alone would build, making dirt and grime stick to the canvas. As a reenactor, you use your gear only a small fraction that the average joe did during the war. For the guys in Normandy.... look at original photos... A lot of those "Green" troops have some pretty well lived in gear. It doesnt matter if they were in combat or not, their equipment was used daily, whether in garrison, training maneuvers, etc. It saw far more use than a piece owned by a "weekend warrior". Look at it this way, if you do 12 events per year as a reenactor, that is averaging 36 days that you are using your items. Great, you have used that item for (basically) a month. But what about the GI who was issued the item and used it for a year before he reached combat? Going off of that formula then, you have a ways to go before you can catch up. For me this argument is over reproduction gear. If It was a mint/unissued original item I would not feel the same way. This is simply my opinion as I feel that reproduction items just look "off" in my opinion. *** Granted I do not condone the "new age "hardcore" reenactor method of simply smearing everything with dirt***
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Post by 24thForward on Apr 14, 2011 14:07:32 GMT -5
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Post by 1marinediv on Apr 14, 2011 19:39:23 GMT -5
Looks good, I would just suggest you put a extra uniform or blanket in your haversack to make it look more full
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Post by 34thtcflyboy on Apr 14, 2011 22:08:16 GMT -5
I have seen guys wear the repro gear for a while, and it still just looks far too new. You have to take into account that soldiers in WWII used their gear on a daily basis. It was exposed to the sun, rain, and snow... It was handled constantly. Hand grease alone would build, making dirt and grime stick to the canvas. As a reenactor, you use your gear only a small fraction that the average joe did during the war. Think about it, accidentally falling in the mud once and you're done, no more new clean uniform! I must admit I do burn up a cork and smear it on my face, neck, and hands to get a nice dirt/smoke effect. I think this week's POTW is a perfect example of how a GI's uniform looked after a few weeks. Ugh, living in the same clothes imagine how you smelled!
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Post by vmfa314 on Apr 15, 2011 6:32:17 GMT -5
If you want your uniforms to have that lived in look for a PTO/Desert scenario most are missing the salt stains from constantly sweating. For the first 3 weeks after we got to Bahrain in Aug 90 we didnt change our utilities or our underwear only our socks and we washed as much as we could. We had no showers or laundry and water was for drinking. When support units showed up things got much better but wear the same clothes for 3 weeks and they will be stiff with sweat and get up and walk away. Now when you all smell the same no one really notices. Mack
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Post by hatman on Apr 15, 2011 7:14:42 GMT -5
They must have changed things after I went through boot, we still used the bar of soap, get the item wet, take your bar of soap and work it in, then the brush and let it soak a bit, then rinse. You learn to do this in boot, because you would do this again in the field if you were not attached to a services company or headquarters. So if you want to have your uniforms worn in , hand wash them, and put them on a clothes line to dry. Everything you learn in boot was for a reason, very little wasted time or movement. To be honest, if the fleet was run like boot, you would had many Marines staying in for 20 years or more.
Semper Fi,
John
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Post by daveneary on Apr 15, 2011 9:33:39 GMT -5
34thTCFlyboy,
I agree, this weeks POTW is probably one of the best I've seen posted. A lot has been captured in that photo and the impression.
Outstanding!
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Post by tetsu no ame on Apr 15, 2011 10:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by 1marinediv on Apr 15, 2011 16:54:42 GMT -5
I like the snap canteen cover in the pic with the Marine on Peleliu.
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