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Post by williegford on May 4, 2011 10:40:48 GMT -5
I have a question about ribbon pins cib marksmen etc. since you stated about the purple heart. etc. If they are on a uniform that is original that you intend on wearing and you don't intend to represent that you earned any of them is it ok to keep them on because you do not want to ruin the uniform? Thanks -Babyface Out of curiosity, how would you ruin the uniform by taking off the ribbons/awards when you're wearing it? Just put them back on when you are done. I would think you take a greater chance of ruining the uniform by the simple act of wearing it in the first place. Bill
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Railsplitter
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Post by Railsplitter on May 4, 2011 13:42:01 GMT -5
"Stolen valour" ruins a uniform quicker than anything for me.
LTC Tim
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Post by Tailgunner24 on May 4, 2011 15:11:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I have an original class a dress jacket of the unit I portray and thought about wearing it to formal meetings, so it wouldn't get ruined , but I wanted to leave it as is. I also have an Ike jacket that was stripped of patches awards etc. so ill just wear that.
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Post by m1guy on Sept 12, 2011 11:51:13 GMT -5
Vudu , I rhink rhey should have picked you to play Dick winters in B.O.B. looking sharp..
M1
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Post by Vudu on Sept 12, 2011 14:47:05 GMT -5
Aw, shucks...
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Post by JumpinJames on Sept 18, 2011 0:46:56 GMT -5
"Stolen valour" ruins a uniform quicker than anything for me. LTC Tim I see this as representing someone from the 1940's with 1940's military issue uniforms, when did we bring our personal business into it? If someone is trying to tell me I am stealing someone's valor by wearing 50+ year old uniform with awards that were common in let's say....a front line Infantry unit, I think they don't know what is going on. Isn't important to show people what those men really would have looked like, awards they would have worn? If I were going into the mall with my sweatshirt with 6 purple hearts....I think that would be a different matter though! ;D I hope I am not coming off like a jerk, I am just trying to legitimately show my POV.
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Post by williegford on Sept 18, 2011 8:42:24 GMT -5
The uniforms are 65+ years old, the "valor" medals are still worn by today's military. That is the difference to some.
Bill
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Post by Buggnkat on Sept 18, 2011 15:06:46 GMT -5
Right or wrong agree or disagree, uniforms of any era are considered by the US Military and others to be heraldic items.
So even if the uniform is 60+ years old, it carries the same weight as a bronze star for the stolen valour act. But that is for the local law to decide not me.
I agree with the rest. If you are doing the occupation duty officer then you are spot on and OK there.
Uniform fit is a bit off though. I dont know your age, so tailoring might not be something you want to do, but if you intend on wearing it for displays, I would have it fitted.
Pants, if you are going to blouse, take some cardboard, duct tape and some fishing weights and put half of the duct tape on the cardboard, the other half put the weights close to the bottom of the cardboard, and fold the duct tape up over the weights. Tuck the cardboard and weights up the inside of the leg fasten your blousing rubber and tuck pants up through the blousing band. Allow the weights and cardboard to fall over the blousing band and this will give you a crisp clean blouse that paratroopers were known for up to and including now.
Lose the ladder lace. That was done by the post-war honor guard teams and a random paratrooper during the war war years.
There were several 82nd guys that went to the 101st both during and after the war was over. Most occupation duties done by airborne units would have been the 82nd not 101st. But there were several guys that were used as cadre for the 101st because of their lack of combat experience before Over Lord.
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Post by youngscc on Sept 19, 2011 14:13:16 GMT -5
Nice suggestions, Greg. Dog Collar chain in the blouse is also an old trick, and the card board did a great job when you broke starch.
Loose the ladder lacing. And as far as wearing valor ribbons, Verboten! I understand the idea of historical representation, but if you want to present those to the public, then do what our unit dose. Mount them as a display, with a history of the individual, the unit or time period. We do this as a legacy display. That way, you can show all the valor ribbons you want, and no one can claim that you are stealing them by the way you present them.
Our unit rule "No valor ribbons or awards will be worn unless verifiable by DD214, or period appropriate decorations."
Cy 401st GIR Texas
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Post by Railsplitter on Sept 19, 2011 14:44:21 GMT -5
Texas A&M still uses pinks and greens, known as their "midnight" uniform for the Corps of Cadets. I was there last weekend and they were everywhere. They also make a Class A blouse and dress caps that isn't too bad either.
LTC Tim
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Post by cco23i on Sept 19, 2011 15:21:12 GMT -5
Texas A&M still uses pinks and greens, known as their "midnight" uniform for the Corps of Cadets. I was there last weekend and they were everywhere. They also make a Class A blouse and dress caps that isn't too bad either. LTC Tim I love the Aggies uniforms, glad they still wear those!
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