thatguy
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Schutze Hagemann 275.Infanterie.Div
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Post by thatguy on Nov 28, 2010 21:28:41 GMT -5
To mikesal: The way I have it in the picture doesnt really work bc of the zelt, so Im going to put it the other way. But I will see what my unit is doing. And about the ribbon. Im not sure why you would have to be 21... Ive been to several Russian front events already. I went to a few small ones and then to the Drive on Stalingrad where we froze are asses off marching. Our unit is based in Texas so having to go to 12 cold weather events would be unreasonable because 1) it doesnt get cold enough here 2) there are not alot of russian units to fight against and 3) we would have to travel farther away for the cold weather events which is something that just does not happen for the most of us. To dixieflyer: I guess it sounded that way, but I was saying 'it would have been a 44 impression but I dont have my trop. y-straps' because that is my choice of y straps for my impression. Thank you soo much! To Hicks: I have been a member for almost 2 years now, but I have only gone to 7 events. And I have recieved the authorization towear the badge, I just have not ordered it yet. Thank you all for your constructive criticism.
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Post by mikesal on Nov 28, 2010 22:55:01 GMT -5
HEY!!! A fellow Drive on Stalingrad Survivor!!! I was there too. I started out with Bmac & the guys from texas, but fell in with the Colorado guys when the Texans left that night (yes, it was really cold Friday night.....I was one of the many who were foraging for wood for the fire). I was the Gefreiter with the mp40. Sorry if I don't remember you, but everyone was a stranger to me when I got there.
I didn't mean to rag on what your doing, but my personal opinion is that the Ostfront medal is something above the norm in reenacting bling. If you happen to live in an area not suited for cold weather eastern front events, then you just don't wear the ribbon. Also, 7 total events doesn't sound like enough to earn a badge either..... Again, just my opinion. You & your unit are free to decide what works for your group (it's just one of my pet peeves that there's no uniform bling policy in this hobby).
The reasoning in our unit (BTW, is based around Oct. '44) is for example, if we had a member who was 18 now, it means he would have been 15 in 1941....too young.
The fact that your willing to wear a wool uniform where you live (just down the street from the surface of the sun, isn't it?), in very commendable. You guys have guts. Fritz
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Post by dixieflyer on Nov 28, 2010 23:32:59 GMT -5
I didn't mean to rag on what your doing, but my personal opinion is that the Ostfront medal is something above the norm in reenacting bling. Thatguy, the following statement is not a slam at you in any way, so please don't take it that way. I want to address something Fritz brought up that strikes a nerve with me. The blanket issuing of this award for attendance at Eastern Front events is something that bothers me sometimes as well Fritz. To the best of my knowledge, you had to have served on the Eastern Front between Nov. of '41 and Apr. of '42 to have received it. According to one of my sources, the requirements are: * Participating in 14 days of combat, or * Serving 60 days in the combat zone, or * Serving 30 days in the combat zone for Luftwaffe personnel, or * Being wounded in the line of duty (between 15 Nov 1941 and 26 Apr 1942) or recieving a frostbite. What bothers me is when I see units that were nowhere near the Eastern Front during those dates issuing this medal out to its members. Granted, I know someone may have transferred in, but those would be in the minority, no? I just think it's overdone as well Fritz. Warren
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thatguy
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Schutze Hagemann 275.Infanterie.Div
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Post by thatguy on Nov 29, 2010 0:01:49 GMT -5
HEY!!! A fellow Drive on Stalingrad Survivor!!! I was there too. I started out with Bmac & the guys from texas, but fell in with the Colorado guys when the Texans left that night (yes, it was really cold Friday night.....I was one of the many who were foraging for wood for the fire). I was the Gefreiter with the mp40. Sorry if I don't remember you, but everyone was a stranger to me when I got there. I didn't mean to rag on what your doing, but my personal opinion is that the Ostfront medal is something above the norm in reenacting bling. If you happen to live in an area not suited for cold weather eastern front events, then you just don't wear the ribbon. Also, 7 total events doesn't sound like enough to earn a badge either..... Again, just my opinion. You & your unit are free to decide what works for your group (it's just one of my pet peeves that there's no uniform bling policy in this hobby). The reasoning in our unit (BTW, is based around Oct. '44) is for example, if we had a member who was 18 now, it means he would have been 15 in 1941....too young. The fact that your willing to wear a wool uniform where you live (just down the street from the surface of the sun, isn't it?), in very commendable. You guys have guts. Fritz Understand where you are coming from. Our unit is around the same time. But keep in mind we werent playing the same unit in Colorado as we would be in Texas or Illinois. It was a different unit that we made up new personas for. But then you could say it wouldnt apply for the unit I'm in now. Oh well, we arent really earning anything anyway since we arent fighting. S'all good! And I left early too. Our driver was getting really sick bc of his diabetes. Bmac's awesome btw
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thatguy
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Schutze Hagemann 275.Infanterie.Div
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Post by thatguy on Nov 29, 2010 0:05:37 GMT -5
I didn't mean to rag on what your doing, but my personal opinion is that the Ostfront medal is something above the norm in reenacting bling. Thatguy, the following statement is not a slam at you in any way, so please don't take it that way. I want to address something Fritz brought up that strikes a nerve with me. The blanket issuing of this award for attendance at Eastern Front events is something that bothers me sometimes as well Fritz. To the best of my knowledge, you had to have served on the Eastern Front between Nov. of '41 and Apr. of '42 to have received it. According to one of my sources, the requirements are: * Participating in 14 days of combat, or * Serving 60 days in the combat zone, or * Serving 30 days in the combat zone for Luftwaffe personnel, or * Being wounded in the line of duty (between 15 Nov 1941 and 26 Apr 1942) or recieving a frostbite. What bothers me is when I see units that were nowhere near the Eastern Front during those dates issuing this medal out to its members. Granted, I know someone may have transferred in, but those would be in the minority, no? I just think it's overdone as well Fritz. Warren Wasnt going to take it that way Warren. We've done research on the unit we portray and the division where most of the men came from was in Russia during that time and survived. So its more than likely a good number of men would have gotten out and cycled into the one I portray now. I understand your frustration though. Sam
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Post by Boogiewoogie on Nov 29, 2010 2:24:23 GMT -5
You should go without for having that fire. Martin
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Post by mikesal on Nov 29, 2010 18:29:39 GMT -5
Alas....that night out in the 20 degree weather (we were expecting a low of 30) didn't count for any cold weather points for me, as it was a non-unit event. I couldn't get any of my guys to make the trip out to colorado (15hours for me). Since I was an ersatz Soldat & didn't know any of my new squad, no one offered to spoon up & many of us just rolled up in our blanket, zeltbahn, & coat like a cigar. I woke up about 2:30am & couldn't figure out why I was shivering so bad. Others got up also & decided to make a fire. Glad the russians didn't attack! You couldn't have squeezed a credit card between the shoulders of everyone huddled around that fire! Fritz
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Post by mikesal on Nov 29, 2010 18:46:33 GMT -5
Warren, only 1 guy in our unit had the Ostfront medal, until another Sodat & I were awarded ours this past spring. I had 16 cold weather events at the time. They predict hi 20's for this weekend at Stille nacht at Ft. Harrison too. I'll be camping there too. Fritz
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Post by Boogiewoogie on Nov 29, 2010 22:57:21 GMT -5
I commanded the western Russian platoon. We know how cold it was, as we didn't build a fire. We did consider sacrificing someone to bring back the sun, at one point.
Martin
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Post by sgtcrowley on Nov 30, 2010 16:55:05 GMT -5
You could have sliced opened up a German and crawled inside to keep warm, much like Han Solo did on the planet Hoth..........
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thatguy
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Schutze Hagemann 275.Infanterie.Div
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Post by thatguy on Nov 30, 2010 19:06:40 GMT -5
You could have sliced opened up a German and crawled inside to keep warm, much like Han Solo did on the planet Hoth.......... Now at any event that would have been a great idea, but at this thing there werent any big guys to do that with. ;D
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Post by mikesal on Nov 30, 2010 19:31:58 GMT -5
Martin, Saturday night one of you Bolshevics attacked me from behind with a rubber shovel. At first I thought one of my own guys had tripped in the dark & stumbled into me, but as I turned around & figured out what was going on (he was giving me a good shellac'ing), it was kinda kool....I'd never been killed with a shovel before. He got one more Soldat after me before finally being gunned down.
I'd hop in the car tomorrow to attend that event again. Fritz
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Post by kharkov43 on Dec 4, 2010 12:44:15 GMT -5
Very nice!
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thatguy
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Schutze Hagemann 275.Infanterie.Div
Posts: 363
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Post by thatguy on Dec 4, 2010 19:35:49 GMT -5
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